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Is the thought of debt ruling your life?

July 24, 2007
By Clever Dude
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Do you think about your debt at least once a day? Do you worry about how you’ll ever get out of debt? Do these questions sound like the beginning of an infomercial for a credit counselor?

I think I have a problem, but you probably don’t know our little secret…We’re not hurting to pay any bills. You’ve heard me complaining about our credit card debt, auto loans and student loans, but we’ve never missed any payments, never went without food, and never had to sell any possessions to pay a creditor. So why do I obsess about our debt so much?

Another PF blogger and I were chatting about this issue last week, and also about our dreams of moving closer to our families back in Pennsylvania. However, I seem to be seeing our path to those dreams in tunnel vision. After reflecting, I realized we don’t have any well-defined goals. Goals such as freedom from debt, birthing or adopting our first child, or even moving back to PA. Sure, I’ve talked a great deal about our debt, and paying off that debt. I’ve also talked about our research into and feelings about adoption. However, we don’t actually have a clear plan for any of these big events.

How can you work towards a goal if you haven’t defined that goal or the goal’s end-date? I have an Excel budget where I track our bills and income (duh). But I also track where I’m sending our extra money for the next 5 years. Sure, I have to make some estimates, but currently we have a debt payoff date of May 15, 2009. That’s when you’ll see that original $112,890 in total debt down to a big, fat goose egg.

But wait, didn’t I just give a date for our goal? Well, yeah, but that’s only half of the equation. You see, I have the goal, and I have the date, but our debt is just part of a bigger picture.

The Big Picture

Debt isn’t everything. It REALLY feels like it when you have debt, and my fellow blogger doesn’t have any non-mortgage debt. Until you have $112,890 (or more) in total non-mortgage debt, then you really just don’t know how bad it feels. Obviously, I don’t plan things well, and that’s mostly how I got into this mess (I’m not blaming Stacie for this one). I decided to put all my debt down on paper to see the damage. We had 2 new cars (both with thousands in negative equity added in), 2 student loans and a big mass of credit card debt. Where do we even start?

So I began the Excel budget to track our expenses. It took years to fine tune, and I can still make many improvements, but it works for now. However, the debt is my past. I also need to plan for my future. I mean the future during and beyond the debt “prison”. For years I was withholding savings in the hope of paying down debt faster. I didn’t contribute to my 401k, or our savings account, or to any Roth IRA. We had the money, but I was so absorbed by the debt that I didn’t consider the importance of saving and planning!

The Next Phase

So what have we been doing?

  • I’ve been contributing to my 401k and Roth IRA. As much as it hurts to “lose” that spending power, I know it will help us in the future.
  • I’ve been slowly funding our savings account. This is where I’d like to focus some more effort.
  • I’ve been paying down debt at a considerable speed. I still don’t think we can manage paying off all the debt (without some drastic steps) on the current timeline, but I’ll get to that next.

And what WILL we be doing soon?

  • We’re going to sit down and plan out the next 1 year of our lives. We’ll be specific and map out dates where we expect to be in our debt recovery, savings goals (once we make them), and with our adoption/pregnancy status. That last item is a little tricky because we have such little control over the process (if any).
  • We’re going to sit down and plan out the next 3 years of our lives. Why 3 years and not 5? Because in just over 2 years, we’ll need to determine whether we’ll want to refinance our 5/1 arm mortgage, let the rate reset, or just sell the house. If we want to sell, we’ll need a plan NOW, rather than at the moment.
  • We’re going to sit down and plan out the next 10 years of our lives. This is where things get fuzzy. Personally, I’d like to just win the lottery and not have to work, but that’s not a realistic goal. Instead, we need to consider where we’ll be in our careers, as well as our location and family status. Will we be in PA or still in the DC region?

We determined that there are only 2 places we’d be satisfied living right now. One is right where were are (in our current home) and the other is State College, PA (a college town close to our families and with an actual job market).

However, we’re both frightened and overwhelmed by the prospects of these big decisions, but we both recognize that the only way we’ll understand what is required of both of us is to set goals and a path to achieving those goals. We know that goals are moving targets, but that you need to start somewhere. Because ultimately, if you don’t know your goals, then you’re probably working towards the wrong ones.

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  1. NCN says

    July 24, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    Wow! What a fabulous post! I’m a BIG believer in setting goals… 2 years ago, paying off 10K in a year seemed HUGE… 1 year ago, saving 20K seemed HUGE… and now I’m trying to save 40K+! It’s amazing how living “intentionally” with a plan can help create focus, determination, and a better future…
    Keep it up…
    Rather “clever” if I do say so… 🙂
    NCN

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  2. Clever Dude says

    July 24, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    NCN, I was actually going to mention your article in which you mentioned your 5, 10 and 20 (or 25?) year goal setting strategy. However, I wrote this close to midnight last night and was pretty groggy, so I left it out.

    Hey everyone, go check out NCN’s site! 🙂

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  3. paidtwice says

    July 24, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    This is a great post. Just great. Thanks for writing it!

    And yes, the thought of debt is ruling my life. And yes, I pay all my bills on time. lol

    What a great post. I’ll have to poke around and read more bits and pieces of your financial plans and stuff like that. 🙂

    Thanks!

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  4. Rob says

    July 24, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    I have never been good with goals. I’m sure I probably need them, but I can never sit down and set a goal for myself (much less, my family). And the kicker of this problem is that I have no debt. None, zilch, nada. The cars are paid off, we rent (but will be buying shortly), and put a few hundred on a credit card, but that get’s paid off every month – before the bill comes.

    Here’s the problem though,.. I don’t save. At least as much as I should. I max my 401k matching and contribute $50/month to a Roth IRA. But I can’t get myself to save any more,.. so I feel like I’m in a standstill.

    I need to learn to set goals,.. but it’s just not me.

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  5. SingleGuyMoney says

    July 24, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    Man, this post really hit home. I am the same way. I have about 1/2 your debt but I know that feeling of having debt hang over you. I am not late on any of my bills and am making a small dent in the total debt but I have alot left.

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  6. Clever Dude says

    July 24, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    Rob, perhaps you need to find a purpose in life. No, seriously, what do you really want to do? Children, more education, early retirement, working for a non-profit, etc.? Find what really drives you and save towards that. If you want to take a job that you’ll love, but it pays little, save up so you can take that job.

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  7. Rob says

    July 24, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    Yeah,.. you’re right. Actually I need to read “The Purpose Driven Life” first. It’s on my shelf just collecting dust. You sound like you may have read it yourself.

    Well my wife and I are about to make some major life changes (she’s graduating, we’re likely moving, buying a house, probably changing jobs – again, and getting ready to have kids) all in the next year. So maybe I’ll wait until this boat stops rockin’.

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  8. Fabulously Broke says

    July 24, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    I always think about debt. I just saved $1.12 on gas by signing up for this FREE rewards program at the gas station I frequent quite a bit, and was thrilled to bits.

    My husband said: It’s only $1.12, don’t get your knickers in a knot..

    And I said: It’s still $1.12! And $1.12 closer to us being debt free in 2 years. 🙂

    It constantly hangs over me, but I try not to let it control my life. I don’t want to become an old lady who steals Splenda, ketchup or tissue paper from restaurants….

    But back to your original question – my short-term goal is to clear my debt in 2 years, my long-term is to buy a house by the time I hit 30 in a cheaper area with lower cost of living, and become a millionaire by 45, 50 tops, and retire at 65 as a multi-millionaire 🙂

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  9. Millionaire Mommy Next Door says

    July 31, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    I find it much easier to accomplish what I want when I:
    1. Create a vision
    2. Set goals
    3. Outline a plan using small steps
    4. Share my goals and desires with supportive people
    5. Look for the positives everyday, starting today (don’t wait until you’ve reached your goals to be happy!). Law of attraction works here.

    Sounds like you’re on the right track, Clever Dude; keep it up!

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  10. Minimum Wage says

    August 14, 2007 at 9:49 am

    Until you have $112,890 (or more) in total non-mortgage debt, then you really just don’t know how bad it feels.
    ———————————————

    I disagree. I think “how bad it feels” is a function of your total non-mortgage debt relative to your disposable income.

    My debt is far, far less than $112,890. BUT I earn minimum wage, which means that almost all of my net income just covers the most basic living expenses – leaving little to be applied toward debt. How bad does THAT feel?

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  11. Stephanie says

    August 14, 2007 at 9:35 am

    hmm, reading your post made me realize that I don’t really have any plans/goals about what comes next, besides paying off my student loans. And I agree, I’m not struggling to pay them off, I just know it’s going to take a while. But it does sort of overwhelm my thinking…I don’t plan so much about what’s next (like the possibility of going back to school, or what my career goals are.) Thanks for reminding me that I probably should be planning things!

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  12. j_166 says

    August 14, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    HEY! I live in state college! This is a GREAT town to live in (assuming you don’t mind traveling to phila, or pgh if you want to go to “the city”). The area has changed and grown alot in the past couple years. If you have any specific questions or concerns about the area, feel free to shoot me an email.

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  13. Peniaze a financie says

    January 17, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Very inspiring post…thank you and get out of debt very soon

    Reply

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