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But to get back to the 5,000 year leap, the 7th principle noted in the book that the founding fathers used was that “The proper role of the gernment is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things.” Every person is entitled to protection of his life and property, these are some of his natural rights. Therefore it is perfectly legitimate to deligate to the government the task of setting up a police force to protect the lives and property of all people.

But suppose a kind man saw one neighbor with two cars and another with no cars. Futher suppose he takes a vehicle from the man with two cars and gives it to the person with no cars. This man would then be tried for car theft, because it is a violation of the natural right of his prosperous neighbor. This government was built to protect all the natural rights of man, and that is the right to be as prosperous as I, as well as every single person in the world wants, regardless. It was never the governments responsibility to be responsible for your actions and your life, just your rights.

But it goes on and states the founders were not totally against welfare, instead they said:
1. Do not help the needy completly. Merely help them help themselves.
2. Give the poor the satisfaction of “earned achievement” instead of rewarding them without achievement.
3. Allow the poor to climb the “appreciation ladder” – from tent to cabins, cabins to cottages, cottages to comfortable homes.
4. Where emergency help is provided, do not prolong it to the point where it becomes habitual.
5. Strictly enforce the scale of “fixed responsibility.” Being first, personal responsibility, then family, then church/community, and finally country, and with disaster emergency, the state.
Under no circumstances is the federal government to become involved in public welfare. The founders felt it would corrupt the government to be tyrannous and in to much control, and also corrupt the poor. Therefore, the founders made sure there is no provision in the constituion to delegate authority for the federal government to participate in charity or welfare. It simply gives them to much power over the natural rights of man. Instead it was more or less left up to ones own resolve and the charity work of others to help the poor, mostly ones own resolve.

In the end, I implore everyone to read the 5,000 year leap. There is so much more to it than this, I could go on and on and on and on. Please, please, PLEASE! Read it!!

What are welfare recipients but beggars?

You think I didn’t start out earning minimum wage? I worked at McDonald’s, KFC, Kmart. I had paper routes (4 of them at once). I worked clearing logs from fields for the EPA. But the main difference I guess is that I didn’t get myself in trouble. I didn’t get some girl pregnant (I had to turn your comment around since I’m a guy). I did things that would be considered felonies (if I was a year older), but I didn’t get caught. I’m not a straight arrow; I just happened to know better.

My parents still don’t even make enough to own their own house so they still live with my gram. And guess what, my sister is a single mother of two with a totally deadbeat dad (with 3 other kids to 3 other women). You think I don’t see “your story” first hand? And guess what, my sister is living with my parents who, if I need to remind you from 2 sentences back, are living with my grandmother!

No, I don’t have answers, but I do have a pretty good understanding of right and wrong. I know I don’t want my tax dollars going to pay for my lazy relatives (aunts, uncles, cousins) who are too lazy to get up and get a job (ANY job). I know how much they make because I did their taxes. But yet I’m paying for them while I’ll never get to see any of it for myself.

My parents taught me work ethics. I worked my way through college, but still ended up with debt afterwards. But that debt has more than paid itself back, even if it’s not paid off yet. My stupid decisions are no longer “I got a stranger pregnant” but instead “I screwed up my tax return”, but I still have memories when times were tough. So don’t you tell me what I know or who I am.

Now go look in a mirror and throw your blame that way because I don’t want any more of it.

I’ve been poor for most of my adult life. It’s not been from lack of employment that entire time. I know how to write up a resume, I know how to interview, I know how to show up at work every day and shock of shocks, I even know how to do a good job at what I was hired to do. None of that takes a potential employer by the arm and twists it to make him hire me. If you have the least little thing wrong with your background, they don’t want you, especially now–and I have no college degree and went through a nasty divorce, which left me relocating frequently just trying to regain my feet. Employers don’t like that stuff. Not one bit.

So in my case the fishing pole’s broken. And I’m trying to sort out how to make my own way; my attitude is that if nobody’s going to help me, guess I am just going to have to do it myself. But I want to make it very clear that the only reason I can do this with a child to worry about is because her father’s responsible enough to support her like he’s supposed to do. What if he weren’t around? It’s unconstitutional for the government to help poor people, unconstitutional for them to monitor and regulate daycares (never mind they do it for military daycares, and they do a very good job at it, too), unconstitutional for them to provide medical care… how the hell do you get all that on ten an hour or less when the child’s already here? Because you can’t go back in time and make the child not be here. And I’m not a breeder for sterile rich people, thanks anyway.

You’ve got no answers, I know, just clichés. It’s all right. Like I said, I can figure it out myself. But do me a favor and save your advice and opinions for issues about which you know just a wee bit more than you do about this one.

Do you really think that people who collect welfare never do any work at all? Do you? Let’s just look at the ones who are raising kids. Do you think that’s not work? Why? Have you ever raised children yourself? (I haven’t looked at the rest of your blog yet. I don’t think I want to.) Do you really think someone who does that much work deserves no compensation for it other than fuzzy happy feelings? If you think a mom (it’s usually a mom) should be “paid” by the babydaddy instead, hey, I’m right there with you on that one–but there’s just one problem. The babydaddy’s paycheck isn’t for his kids. It’s for the work *he’s* done. The mom’s work doesn’t even enter into it. Nor would it if she were married to him.

Seriously. Hop on by your HR department sometime and ask them what part of your paycheck’s intended for your wife and kids, if you have any. Come back and tell us how high the laughter measured in decibels.

And it’s not like the people who get welfare think it’s all sunshine and daisies, nor did they before the Clinton-era welfare “reform” took effect. It’s *not* a picnic. You’re *not* living high on the hog unless something went very, very wrong with your paperwork, or you committed fraud in some way. To make matters worse, it’s not like you can ease off of it by bettering yourself. The old welfare would go away if you got a big enough paycheck to squeak by, and the new isn’t any better. Food stamps to this day do not go to people with any kind of emergency savings. They have to be absolutely destitute before they can get help. Then there’s no way they can become anything *but* destitute without losing that help.

Don’t even get me started about Medicaid. I’m pretty sure I’m running around with undiagnosed endocrine issues thanks to them.

On top of that, we had a New Deal in the first place because the goodwill of others WAS NOT ENOUGH. To this day it IS NOT ENOUGH. If people’s goodwill were enough then there is NO reason ANY charity should have to go begging to the public for more and more money.

Let me give you an example. Civil rights. OK, we have some laws in this country about civil rights. All the races and genders and stuff are supposed to be equal. There’s just one problem: The government doesn’t enforce it. The EEOC is consistently underfunded year after year, especially by Republican administrations but I’m not letting the Dems off the hook either.

So we have some private charities that try to pick up some of the slack. Not just intimidating universities into admitting enough black and Native American kids, but providing legal counsel for the times people of color are all but lynched by white people–it still happens, folks!

But because people think racism is no longer an issue in this country, the Southern Poverty Law Center is constantly going around with its hand out. If it were getting enough money to finance its operations year-round, if it were meeting all the need out there that the government was not fulfilling, it wouldn’t have to fundraise at all.

Do you really think charities geared toward helping the poor have got all the money they need, or ever did? Do you really think the existence of government agencies prevents charities from doing work for the poor? Hell, it is set up so that the government DELIBERATELY does not do enough for poor people, because “charities and family connections are supposed to pick up the slack.” Whoops.

I can’t tell you how many times in the last six years I’ve heard from my local food pantries that they’re short on food. Everybody gets to feeling charitable around Christmas time and drops off all their food junk and food garbage to soup kitchens and food pantries and then they’re out of luck for the rest of the year. Remember that food stamps are NOT supposed to cover all a poor person’s food needs even though you have to be destitute to get food stamps in the first place.

And the idea that people are always poor because they are lazy. Oh, don’t get me started on you again. Your average high-earner who isn’t a maintenance contractor makes his money sitting behind a desk. Your average low-wage-earner is busting his butt doing manual labor. You tell me which one is lazy.

As for it being “unconstitutional” for the government to help with these things, tell me something else. It’s the government’s job to provide national defense, isn’t it? What kills more people in the United States, war or illness? What kills more people here, war or poverty? Exactly what is our government defending, and from what?

Open your eyes. Look around. At something besides Faux News and preferably involving real people, would be a good start.