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		<title>By: Tabitha</title>
		<link>http://www.cleverdude.com/content/examine-your-motives-series-buying-a-home/comment-page-1/#comment-58412</link>
		<dc:creator>Tabitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! I love this article. I am in the process of buying a house--have been for 9 months. There is a part of me that just can&#039;t shake the HUGE commitment and costs associated with it. This post has been an eye opener for me. Even though I have read, researched, googled and read more..the way you put things here, makes so much sense to me. Thanks a million!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! I love this article. I am in the process of buying a house&#8211;have been for 9 months. There is a part of me that just can&#8217;t shake the HUGE commitment and costs associated with it. This post has been an eye opener for me. Even though I have read, researched, googled and read more..the way you put things here, makes so much sense to me. Thanks a million!</p>
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		<title>By: 107 Things That Make Good Financial Cents &#124; Good Financial Cents -Jeff Rose Certified Financial Planner and Investment Advisor, Carbondale, Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator>107 Things That Make Good Financial Cents &#124; Good Financial Cents -Jeff Rose Certified Financial Planner and Investment Advisor, Carbondale, Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Buy a Home. If you&#8217;re financially able, it&#8217;s time to live the American Dream. Make sure you have the right motives on being a homeowner. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Renting vs Buying a Home: A Detailed Calculation at Clever Dude Personal Finance &#38; Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renting vs Buying a Home: A Detailed Calculation at Clever Dude Personal Finance &#38; Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a subscriber and commenter here at Clever Dude, had some great comments on our article Examine Your Motives: Buying A Home, so I asked her to make her comment into a full article. Casey and her husband are in their early [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a subscriber and commenter here at Clever Dude, had some great comments on our article Examine Your Motives: Buying A Home, so I asked her to make her comment into a full article. Casey and her husband are in their early [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I agree, my husband and I are second time homeowners with a break in between the first and second purchase to rent (new city).  We were astounded at the money we saved while renting. 

So we worked up a rent vs buy spreadsheet considering all of the inflow/outflow items involved with owning vs renting (closing costs, PITI, HOA dues, maintenance, home improvement, home appreciation, alternate investment opportunities with additional funds, realtor fees on the ultimate sale, etc).  

We considered a 3% annual appreciation on the home, as in a normal market that is the mean.  And we added in an amount proportional to the value of the home for maintenance and repair - seperate from home improvement which we valued at a 80% return (optimistic IMHO), home improvements were added @ the 80% to the value of the home so it could appreciate at the same 3% annual appreciation.  Also, home improvement is a bit of a hobby for us so we knew in advance about what we would spend per year on this.

On the rent side, we did come to a net savings and invested those funds at a point higher than the interest rate on the house.

We found our breakeven point came at 3-5 years of home ownership.

So now the question is - will we be staying at our home for that amount of time? (it helps to keep this timeframe in mind as a minimum during the home shoppoing process) - AND now that we had the hard numbers in front of us - would it be worth it emotionally to take the financial hit in years 1-3 just to be living in the home we chose? (In case due to some unforeseen circumstances we had to move.)

The answer in our case was yes - but I can think of many points in my life where renting was and would always be the better solution.  (Even with our two big dogs.)

Case in point baing the inital move to a new city - a 6 month lease gave us enough time to fully invesigate the city and neighborhoods to find where we wanted to buy a house and the house itself.  In the meantime we saved a tidy sum for the downpayment (in addition to profit from our former home - and yes, the tax consequences for the profit if a home was not repurchased within 2 years was taken into the rent vs buy consideration).  

Thanks for the post - just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I agree, my husband and I are second time homeowners with a break in between the first and second purchase to rent (new city).  We were astounded at the money we saved while renting. </p>
<p>So we worked up a rent vs buy spreadsheet considering all of the inflow/outflow items involved with owning vs renting (closing costs, PITI, HOA dues, maintenance, home improvement, home appreciation, alternate investment opportunities with additional funds, realtor fees on the ultimate sale, etc).  </p>
<p>We considered a 3% annual appreciation on the home, as in a normal market that is the mean.  And we added in an amount proportional to the value of the home for maintenance and repair &#8211; seperate from home improvement which we valued at a 80% return (optimistic IMHO), home improvements were added @ the 80% to the value of the home so it could appreciate at the same 3% annual appreciation.  Also, home improvement is a bit of a hobby for us so we knew in advance about what we would spend per year on this.</p>
<p>On the rent side, we did come to a net savings and invested those funds at a point higher than the interest rate on the house.</p>
<p>We found our breakeven point came at 3-5 years of home ownership.</p>
<p>So now the question is &#8211; will we be staying at our home for that amount of time? (it helps to keep this timeframe in mind as a minimum during the home shoppoing process) &#8211; AND now that we had the hard numbers in front of us &#8211; would it be worth it emotionally to take the financial hit in years 1-3 just to be living in the home we chose? (In case due to some unforeseen circumstances we had to move.)</p>
<p>The answer in our case was yes &#8211; but I can think of many points in my life where renting was and would always be the better solution.  (Even with our two big dogs.)</p>
<p>Case in point baing the inital move to a new city &#8211; a 6 month lease gave us enough time to fully invesigate the city and neighborhoods to find where we wanted to buy a house and the house itself.  In the meantime we saved a tidy sum for the downpayment (in addition to profit from our former home &#8211; and yes, the tax consequences for the profit if a home was not repurchased within 2 years was taken into the rent vs buy consideration).  </p>
<p>Thanks for the post &#8211; just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Saving With Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saving With Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend and I have been talking alot lately about when we will want to move to a larger home.  I bought a small house (about 900sq ft) four years ago and it has served me really well so far and we are generally content with the amount of space we have.  However when we get married and have our first kid I feel like the 900 sq ft would be very difficult to feel comfortable in, similar to Rob&#039;s initial point.  For the two of us it&#039;s a great house and the location is ideal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend and I have been talking alot lately about when we will want to move to a larger home.  I bought a small house (about 900sq ft) four years ago and it has served me really well so far and we are generally content with the amount of space we have.  However when we get married and have our first kid I feel like the 900 sq ft would be very difficult to feel comfortable in, similar to Rob&#8217;s initial point.  For the two of us it&#8217;s a great house and the location is ideal.</p>
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		<title>By: Best Posts from August, 2007 at Clever Dude Personal Finance &#38; Money</title>
		<link>http://www.cleverdude.com/content/examine-your-motives-series-buying-a-home/comment-page-1/#comment-11946</link>
		<dc:creator>Best Posts from August, 2007 at Clever Dude Personal Finance &#38; Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Extended Warranties, Envelope Cash Video, And Alcoholism: Money Blogs Roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Extended Warranties, Envelope Cash Video, And Alcoholism: Money Blogs Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Examine Your Motives Series: Buying a Home @ Clever Dude. If every homeowner had done this before jumping to make their purchase, we wouldn&#8217;t have had the subprime mess at all. Don’t just buy a home because your friends are doing it, or you’re afraid of missing something, or because you “want freedom and stability”. Home ownership is not a financial investment. It’s an emotional investment. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Examine Your Motives Series: Buying a Home @ Clever Dude. If every homeowner had done this before jumping to make their purchase, we wouldn&#8217;t have had the subprime mess at all. Don’t just buy a home because your friends are doing it, or you’re afraid of missing something, or because you “want freedom and stability”. Home ownership is not a financial investment. It’s an emotional investment. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clever Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.cleverdude.com/content/examine-your-motives-series-buying-a-home/comment-page-1/#comment-11865</link>
		<dc:creator>Clever Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I regret is not doing the financial research. I like the house and location, but I didn&#039;t ask myself why we wanted to get a house in the first place. We just figured since we were married, we should buy a house instead of rent. We liked where we were renting, but the home buying thing pushed us into moving.

And you mean you can&#039;t just have your kid sleep in the bathtub and wear the same clothing every day? You could just hose them off when they get dirty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I regret is not doing the financial research. I like the house and location, but I didn&#8217;t ask myself why we wanted to get a house in the first place. We just figured since we were married, we should buy a house instead of rent. We liked where we were renting, but the home buying thing pushed us into moving.</p>
<p>And you mean you can&#8217;t just have your kid sleep in the bathtub and wear the same clothing every day? You could just hose them off when they get dirty!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I saw that one and yes, I&#039;m aware that you don&#039;t have kids. The way I wrote that was a little pointed, I&#039;ll admit. 

But I&#039;m not talking about giving kids toys. That&#039;s another issue that society in general should learn to curb. I&#039;m just talking about the extra living space another person tends to take up. Even when that person is only a foot and a half tall, they require space. And when they get up and walking,.. they&#039;re off to conquer the world. It&#039;s just all the stuff (not junk,.. stuff) that we use in life. In the baby example, you have a changing table, crib, a reasonable amount of toys, clothes, storage for diapers, etc... It just blows up on you. Point being, an 1100 sq. ft. place begins to feel a lot smaller once you start adding kids to the mix.

Sorry by the way,.. I&#039;m not trying to come off as critical or rude,.. just realistic. I&#039;m a big fan of your blog, but this one seemed a little biased. You sound like you are regretting your house purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I saw that one and yes, I&#8217;m aware that you don&#8217;t have kids. The way I wrote that was a little pointed, I&#8217;ll admit. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not talking about giving kids toys. That&#8217;s another issue that society in general should learn to curb. I&#8217;m just talking about the extra living space another person tends to take up. Even when that person is only a foot and a half tall, they require space. And when they get up and walking,.. they&#8217;re off to conquer the world. It&#8217;s just all the stuff (not junk,.. stuff) that we use in life. In the baby example, you have a changing table, crib, a reasonable amount of toys, clothes, storage for diapers, etc&#8230; It just blows up on you. Point being, an 1100 sq. ft. place begins to feel a lot smaller once you start adding kids to the mix.</p>
<p>Sorry by the way,.. I&#8217;m not trying to come off as critical or rude,.. just realistic. I&#8217;m a big fan of your blog, but this one seemed a little biased. You sound like you are regretting your house purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: My One Money Advice (MOMA) at Clever Dude Personal Finance &#38; Money</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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