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		<title>By: LAL</title>
		<link>http://www.cleverdude.com/content/americans-debt-shrinks-1st-time-ever/#comment-31611</link>
		<dc:creator>LAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the payoff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the payoff!</p>
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		<title>By: UltraRob</title>
		<link>http://www.cleverdude.com/content/americans-debt-shrinks-1st-time-ever/#comment-31608</link>
		<dc:creator>UltraRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We started adding on a garage and doing some other remodeling.  Since I&#039;ve been doing a lot of the work it&#039;s been slow going.  This year the side income from my website allowed us to pretty much pay down what he had borrowed even as I continued to spend on the remodel.  

I put off the last big expense of having the driveway poured.  The local office for my job was closed in August and a few of us were working from home.  I was nervous about it.  A couple weeks ago I got the call that I no longer had a job.  We&#039;ve cut what we&#039;re spending but our debt is also going up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We started adding on a garage and doing some other remodeling.  Since I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of the work it&#8217;s been slow going.  This year the side income from my website allowed us to pretty much pay down what he had borrowed even as I continued to spend on the remodel.  </p>
<p>I put off the last big expense of having the driveway poured.  The local office for my job was closed in August and a few of us were working from home.  I was nervous about it.  A couple weeks ago I got the call that I no longer had a job.  We&#8217;ve cut what we&#8217;re spending but our debt is also going up.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeinMass</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeinMass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We hunkered down, cut spending to the bone and paid off $16K in car loans and $5K in HELOC debt this year.  The only debt left is our mortgage, which sadly is not going away for another 14 years.

All amounts previously devoted to debt service as well as our normal monthly savings are squirreled away in a high yield savings account to help us ride out the storm.

Part of me wants to resume a limited amount of consumption since such drastic cuts by many do the overall economy no good, but at this point I have to worry about my family&#039;s well-being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We hunkered down, cut spending to the bone and paid off $16K in car loans and $5K in HELOC debt this year.  The only debt left is our mortgage, which sadly is not going away for another 14 years.</p>
<p>All amounts previously devoted to debt service as well as our normal monthly savings are squirreled away in a high yield savings account to help us ride out the storm.</p>
<p>Part of me wants to resume a limited amount of consumption since such drastic cuts by many do the overall economy no good, but at this point I have to worry about my family&#8217;s well-being.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@J. Money: you and me both.  I cringe at the thought of being in debt and job insecurity in this environment.  congrats on cutting down.

@jack: if it is college loan debt and you are going to recuperate in a good career field, then don&#039;t worry about it.  if your discretionary personal debt increased, you should be looking for ways to eliminate or reduce now before you get a job.  depending on when you graduate, the job market isn&#039;t going to be rosy for several career tracks, so don&#039;t wish away the debt on future prospects of employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@J. Money: you and me both.  I cringe at the thought of being in debt and job insecurity in this environment.  congrats on cutting down.</p>
<p>@jack: if it is college loan debt and you are going to recuperate in a good career field, then don&#8217;t worry about it.  if your discretionary personal debt increased, you should be looking for ways to eliminate or reduce now before you get a job.  depending on when you graduate, the job market isn&#8217;t going to be rosy for several career tracks, so don&#8217;t wish away the debt on future prospects of employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Wow. The biggest drop in 57 years.

I imagine that&#039;s on a $ basis and not a % one.  It will always be reported in the worst possible way, since bad news sells better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Wow. The biggest drop in 57 years.</p>
<p>I imagine that&#8217;s on a $ basis and not a % one.  It will always be reported in the worst possible way, since bad news sells better.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Money</title>
		<link>http://www.cleverdude.com/content/americans-debt-shrinks-1st-time-ever/#comment-31602</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huh...that&#039;s pretty interesting either way.  i&#039;ve cut out a helluva lot this year, but mainly since blogging and learning from around town.  i wonder where i&#039;d be if i was stuck in my old ways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huh&#8230;that&#8217;s pretty interesting either way.  i&#8217;ve cut out a helluva lot this year, but mainly since blogging and learning from around town.  i wonder where i&#8217;d be if i was stuck in my old ways?</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish my debt had shrunk instead of risen :/  cant wait till i finish college and get a good paying job...
-jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish my debt had shrunk instead of risen :/  cant wait till i finish college and get a good paying job&#8230;<br />
-jack</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.cleverdude.com/content/americans-debt-shrinks-1st-time-ever/#comment-31599</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be all excited about this report.  It seems to me the reduction is largely due to credit defaults and subsequent write offs.  of course consumer debt has decreased with all the foreclosures going on.  couple that with it being very difficult to get new debt, i&#039;m surprised it didn&#039;t decrease more.  again, generic numbers are meaningless.

as far as net worth?  well, for us it is meaningless because we don&#039;t need to access the money we are saving.  The paper value of investments has decreased, but there aren&#039;t any realized losses for us yet.  we are continuing to dump most of what we earn into investments though, and we&#039;ve also been increasing spending (well, my wife has been) on crap (i&#039;m at odds with the increased spending the past couple of months in lieu of saving more, although she just found out she will get another pay raise next week).  we are in a good financial situation with secure jobs, so in real life terms (since we don&#039;t have any realized losses) the economy isn&#039;t affecting us at all and hopefully won&#039;t.  We are very fortunate in light of other people, but it wasn&#039;t all by chance.  I worked hard to pay off debt several years ago, and we have actively managed to live far below our means and to save.  I see our good position now as a positive return on investing in ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be all excited about this report.  It seems to me the reduction is largely due to credit defaults and subsequent write offs.  of course consumer debt has decreased with all the foreclosures going on.  couple that with it being very difficult to get new debt, i&#8217;m surprised it didn&#8217;t decrease more.  again, generic numbers are meaningless.</p>
<p>as far as net worth?  well, for us it is meaningless because we don&#8217;t need to access the money we are saving.  The paper value of investments has decreased, but there aren&#8217;t any realized losses for us yet.  we are continuing to dump most of what we earn into investments though, and we&#8217;ve also been increasing spending (well, my wife has been) on crap (i&#8217;m at odds with the increased spending the past couple of months in lieu of saving more, although she just found out she will get another pay raise next week).  we are in a good financial situation with secure jobs, so in real life terms (since we don&#8217;t have any realized losses) the economy isn&#8217;t affecting us at all and hopefully won&#8217;t.  We are very fortunate in light of other people, but it wasn&#8217;t all by chance.  I worked hard to pay off debt several years ago, and we have actively managed to live far below our means and to save.  I see our good position now as a positive return on investing in ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that the net loss in 2008 is a lot more than it was in 1929.  For one, the population is a lot bigger.  For another, people have more to lose, since the average person is wealthier and the very wealthy are much, much wealthier.

I&#039;m doing everything pretty much the same.  I have no debt and don&#039;t plan to acquire any.  My investments, like everyone else&#039;s, have taken a beating, but I haven&#039;t stopped adding to them.  I guess I&#039;m being a little more particular in how I spend my food money, since prices have increased.  But maybe they&#039;ll go back down a bit soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that the net loss in 2008 is a lot more than it was in 1929.  For one, the population is a lot bigger.  For another, people have more to lose, since the average person is wealthier and the very wealthy are much, much wealthier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing everything pretty much the same.  I have no debt and don&#8217;t plan to acquire any.  My investments, like everyone else&#8217;s, have taken a beating, but I haven&#8217;t stopped adding to them.  I guess I&#8217;m being a little more particular in how I spend my food money, since prices have increased.  But maybe they&#8217;ll go back down a bit soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Panda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Panda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been saving more, but not really due to the economy. We&#039;re trying eliminate a car loan and build up our savings more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been saving more, but not really due to the economy. We&#8217;re trying eliminate a car loan and build up our savings more.</p>
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